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	<description>Níl ann ach raiméis : It's nothing but nonsense</description>
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		<title>By: maca</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-56387</link>
		<dc:creator>maca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rhys,.

Good ideas.  It&#039;s something i&#039;d love to take on if I had the time and energy, too big a project for me though.  There already are a number of discussion forums in Irish as it is, though certainly a new one would be no harm.
I&#039;d always thought of creating a central hub site for Irish learners, a place where you could have tons of Irish lessons, links to tons of other sites plus forum etc.  Huge task though!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rhys,.</p>
<p>Good ideas.  It&#8217;s something i&#8217;d love to take on if I had the time and energy, too big a project for me though.  There already are a number of discussion forums in Irish as it is, though certainly a new one would be no harm.<br />
I&#8217;d always thought of creating a central hub site for Irish learners, a place where you could have tons of Irish lessons, links to tons of other sites plus forum etc.  Huge task though!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54850</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as your a bit handy with these sort of things, why not do some sort of mash up &#039;hub, that not only includes blog posts from Gaeilge blogs, but also Flickr photo&#039;s with defined gaeilge tags, links to other Gaeilge only sites like forums etc.

Ideas for dedicated forums in gaeilge
One purely for discussing gaelic games
One for parents, discussing general issues (where to take them for day&#039;s out, good shops/websites for buying clothes, books, toys etc).  This would bring Gaelige speakers of a certian age (20-40) together throughout ireland.  Language issues will inevitable be discussed.
Both existed in Welsh (but for rugby rather than GG) and were popular, but neither administraors relaised work infolved and are down at the moments.

I don&#039;t know if such thing exists as a gaeilge music scene (I&#039;m thinking alt/rock/pop/rap rather than folk or trad).  A good example in Welsh is www.curiad.org which poeple submitt gigs, which are displayed on a calendr and a google maps mashup called &#039;gigfap&#039; (gig map).  it also includes bands and venue profiles and news, all available via RSS feeds.  Owner might be willing to share code if asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as your a bit handy with these sort of things, why not do some sort of mash up &#8216;hub, that not only includes blog posts from Gaeilge blogs, but also Flickr photo&#8217;s with defined gaeilge tags, links to other Gaeilge only sites like forums etc.</p>
<p>Ideas for dedicated forums in gaeilge<br />
One purely for discussing gaelic games<br />
One for parents, discussing general issues (where to take them for day&#8217;s out, good shops/websites for buying clothes, books, toys etc).  This would bring Gaelige speakers of a certian age (20-40) together throughout ireland.  Language issues will inevitable be discussed.<br />
Both existed in Welsh (but for rugby rather than GG) and were popular, but neither administraors relaised work infolved and are down at the moments.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if such thing exists as a gaeilge music scene (I&#8217;m thinking alt/rock/pop/rap rather than folk or trad).  A good example in Welsh is <a href="http://www.curiad.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.curiad.org</a> which poeple submitt gigs, which are displayed on a calendr and a google maps mashup called &#8216;gigfap&#8217; (gig map).  it also includes bands and venue profiles and news, all available via RSS feeds.  Owner might be willing to share code if asked.</p>
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		<title>By: maca</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54561</link>
		<dc:creator>maca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhys, thx for the link, bookmarked!

I have difficulty enough with Irish so Scottish Gaelic poses serious problems for me :)  but they are quite similar as MD said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhys, thx for the link, bookmarked!</p>
<p>I have difficulty enough with Irish so Scottish Gaelic poses serious problems for me <img src='http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   but they are quite similar as MD said.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo dhuine</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo dhuine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhys
Yeah Gàidhlig and Gaeilge are very similar
I find I can read a Gàidhlig blog and get the meaning very easily.
Diolch for the link Rhys

Maca
I&#039;d agree that a Blaganna Gaeilge site would be well worth having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhys<br />
Yeah Gàidhlig and Gaeilge are very similar<br />
I find I can read a Gàidhlig blog and get the meaning very easily.<br />
Diolch for the link Rhys</p>
<p>Maca<br />
I&#8217;d agree that a Blaganna Gaeilge site would be well worth having.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54534</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The census in Wales doesn&#039;t ask about usage, only abilty to speak, read and write, so does&#039;nt give acurate picture.

I&#039;d say mixing blogs is probably best.  Have you seen www.tirnamblog.com?  I don&#039;t know how similar both langugaes are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The census in Wales doesn&#8217;t ask about usage, only abilty to speak, read and write, so does&#8217;nt give acurate picture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say mixing blogs is probably best.  Have you seen <a href="http://www.tirnamblog.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.tirnamblog.com?</a>  I don&#8217;t know how similar both langugaes are.</p>
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		<title>By: maca</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54530</link>
		<dc:creator>maca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It would be class if there was one.&quot;

I&#039;ve started to look into what would be needed to set one up.  I also like the mix of Irish &amp; English blogs on Irishblogs but someone people may like one central place for all Irish language blogs.  Having one would still be better than not having one IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It would be class if there was one.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started to look into what would be needed to set one up.  I also like the mix of Irish &amp; English blogs on Irishblogs but someone people may like one central place for all Irish language blogs.  Having one would still be better than not having one IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo dhuine</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54416</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo dhuine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I like the Idea that the Gaeilge blogs mix in with the English language blogs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I like the Idea that the Gaeilge blogs mix in with the English language blogs</p>
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		<title>By: Mo dhuine</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54414</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo dhuine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhys 

Don&#039;t think there&#039;s a specific site for Irish Blogs 

http://kinja.com/user/gaeilge
http://www.irishblogs.ie/categories/gaeilge/

Just Gaeilge sections as shown above 

It would be class if there was one. But there&#039;s not much people interested in blogging in Irish, or speaking it for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhys </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a specific site for Irish Blogs </p>
<p><a href="http://kinja.com/user/gaeilge" rel="nofollow">http://kinja.com/user/gaeilge</a><br />
<a href="http://www.irishblogs.ie/categories/gaeilge/" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishblogs.ie/categories/gaeilge/</a></p>
<p>Just Gaeilge sections as shown above </p>
<p>It would be class if there was one. But there&#8217;s not much people interested in blogging in Irish, or speaking it for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: maca</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54262</link>
		<dc:creator>maca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhys
&quot;The claim that 1.5m speaking the language (as opposed to understanding it?) does seem rather high&quot;

We had a census a while back and over 1.5M claimed to be competent in Irish although how many of those are fully fluent in the language is unknown. What&#039;s certain is that 1.5M are NOT speaking it on a regular basis, if they were Irish would be in quite a healthy state.

From wikipedia:
&quot;out of the Republic&#039;s more than 4.3 million citizens there are approximately 1.6 million people claiming a self-reported competence in Irish ... Of these, 350,000 reported using Irish every day, 155,000 weekly, 585,000 less often, 460,000 never, and 30,000 didn&#039;t state how often. Of the 350,000 who were reported to use Irish every day, the majority are schoolchildren who use it during their classes in Irish&quot;

&quot;do you think the same is true in Ireland?&quot;

It&#039;s hard to know.  Personally I don&#039;t like such figures thrown about because it is misleading. I&#039;d love if there were 1.5m fluent speakers but there aren&#039;t.
I&#039;d prefer we focus on the real positives, such as the growth of Gaelscoileanna. 

&quot;I’ve noticed a few Gaeilge posts on Irishblogs.com, is there a seperate site that only includes Gaeilge blogs?&quot;

Not that I know of.  Hmm, might just have to set one up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhys<br />
&#8220;The claim that 1.5m speaking the language (as opposed to understanding it?) does seem rather high&#8221;</p>
<p>We had a census a while back and over 1.5M claimed to be competent in Irish although how many of those are fully fluent in the language is unknown. What&#8217;s certain is that 1.5M are NOT speaking it on a regular basis, if they were Irish would be in quite a healthy state.</p>
<p>From wikipedia:<br />
&#8220;out of the Republic&#8217;s more than 4.3 million citizens there are approximately 1.6 million people claiming a self-reported competence in Irish &#8230; Of these, 350,000 reported using Irish every day, 155,000 weekly, 585,000 less often, 460,000 never, and 30,000 didn&#8217;t state how often. Of the 350,000 who were reported to use Irish every day, the majority are schoolchildren who use it during their classes in Irish&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;do you think the same is true in Ireland?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to know.  Personally I don&#8217;t like such figures thrown about because it is misleading. I&#8217;d love if there were 1.5m fluent speakers but there aren&#8217;t.<br />
I&#8217;d prefer we focus on the real positives, such as the growth of Gaelscoileanna. </p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve noticed a few Gaeilge posts on Irishblogs.com, is there a seperate site that only includes Gaeilge blogs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not that I know of.  Hmm, might just have to set one up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
		<link>http://www.ssi-developer.net/rant/?p=828#comment-54243</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing new beingd iscussed then Maca!  The claim that 1.5m speaking the language (as opposed to understanding it?) does seem rather high considering the depressing stories we hear here in Wales about Gaeilge.  A figure of 0.6 million is banded about in Wales which is at it&#039;s highest in 30-40 years, but there&#039;s a danger that it&#039;s over exaggerated and put&#039;s us in a false sense of security - do you think the same is true in Ireland?

Mo dhuine
Here&#039;s a link to the commnet by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maes-e.com/viewtopic.php?p=303950#303950&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mici&lt;/a&gt;(not his real name!) which appears in a thread discussing changing Dingle (back?) to An Daingean.   Mici has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://fflecs.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; which he&#039;s writting about his time in Gaillimh (but if you don&#039;t understand Welsh, it&#039;s mainly about the lock-ins he&#039;s having at his current bar job!).

Maes-e is quite a popular forum, the busiest independent website in Welsh.  It&#039;s creator Nic Dafis has really been encouraging others to blog in Welsh and now there&#039;s a busy Welsh language blogging scene at www.blogiadur.com.  I&#039;ve noticed a few Gaeilge posts on Irishblogs.com, is there a seperate site that only includes Gaeilge blogs?  Not that it&#039;s a bad thing that both languages are together.  The creator of Blogiadur.com has set up Blogcymru.com for English language blogs from Wales, while some Irish guys (behind Irishblogs.com) have set up Welshblogs.com which mixes the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new beingd iscussed then Maca!  The claim that 1.5m speaking the language (as opposed to understanding it?) does seem rather high considering the depressing stories we hear here in Wales about Gaeilge.  A figure of 0.6 million is banded about in Wales which is at it&#8217;s highest in 30-40 years, but there&#8217;s a danger that it&#8217;s over exaggerated and put&#8217;s us in a false sense of security &#8211; do you think the same is true in Ireland?</p>
<p>Mo dhuine<br />
Here&#8217;s a link to the commnet by <a href="http://www.maes-e.com/viewtopic.php?p=303950#303950" rel="nofollow">Mici</a>(not his real name!) which appears in a thread discussing changing Dingle (back?) to An Daingean.   Mici has a <a href="http://fflecs.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">blog</a> which he&#8217;s writting about his time in Gaillimh (but if you don&#8217;t understand Welsh, it&#8217;s mainly about the lock-ins he&#8217;s having at his current bar job!).</p>
<p>Maes-e is quite a popular forum, the busiest independent website in Welsh.  It&#8217;s creator Nic Dafis has really been encouraging others to blog in Welsh and now there&#8217;s a busy Welsh language blogging scene at <a href="http://www.blogiadur.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogiadur.com</a>.  I&#8217;ve noticed a few Gaeilge posts on Irishblogs.com, is there a seperate site that only includes Gaeilge blogs?  Not that it&#8217;s a bad thing that both languages are together.  The creator of Blogiadur.com has set up Blogcymru.com for English language blogs from Wales, while some Irish guys (behind Irishblogs.com) have set up Welshblogs.com which mixes the two.</p>
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